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Clients blocked as "Anonymous" - 6.Dec.2005 4:12:26 PM   
DaveG

 

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Hello,

Believe it or not, I'm still trying to have clients authenticate via SSL Certificates. Unfortunately, I'm not very successful at it. Until now, all clients connection attempts end up blocked as anonymous connection attempts.

The client has been issued a certificate, from an internal CA (stand-alone). I've used this same CA to issue a user certificate too the ISA Administrator account, added the client certificate to the Administrator personal store as well as the computer store and even the Firewall service store. None of these actions seem to help in the client authentication.

I've configured the listener to require authentication for all users, and check the box for SSL Certificates authentication only.

The client does get prompted to chose a certificate while trying too connect to the published secure site, but then it receives an error 401: Unauthorized. The ISA logs a denied connection to anonymous user.

What am I missing here??? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Dave.
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RE: Clients blocked as "Anonymous" - 6.Dec.2005 8:50:47 PM   
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Hi Dave,

check out http://www.isaserver.org/tutorials/Publishing_Web_Sites_using_Client_Certificate_Authentication.html .

HTH,
Stefaan

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RE: Clients blocked as "Anonymous" - 6.Dec.2005 9:09:32 PM   
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Hi Stefaan,

I already did use that very good article you referred me to before. Unfortunately, my production (thus test) environment is rather different than the case described in the article. In other words, my ISA (Std ed.) is a stand-alone server, as well as my PKI setup. Because I must issue certificates to clients outside of my network, I did not want to add them in AD (good or bad?).

If you tell me that this (AD + Enterprise CA) is the only way to achieve client certificate authentication, then that is a different story and I might be able to work toward that. But if it is feasible with a stand-alone setup, I'd rather do it like that to make the least changes to my production environment.

Thanks for your help.

Dave.

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RE: Clients blocked as "Anonymous" - 6.Dec.2005 9:14:17 PM   
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Hi Dave,

I've just tried it on a OWA publishing rule: client cert to the OWA listener and basic auth to the OWA web server. It works out of the box though I used an AD integrated CA.

HTH,
Stefaan

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RE: Clients blocked as "Anonymous" - 7.Dec.2005 1:38:08 AM   
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I'm going to rebuild my lab environment and the ISA server from scratch and try once more. If that still doesn't work, I'll move the ISA to AD domain and try with an Enterprise CA. We'll see. Wish me luck ;-)

Dave.

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RE: Clients blocked as "Anonymous" - 7.Dec.2005 2:09:29 AM   
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Hi Dave,

You'll need to join the ISA firewall to the domain in order for this to work. There is no security issue here as long as you correctly configure the ISA firewall and don't allow connections to the Local Host Network from untrusted hosts.

HTH,
Tom

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RE: Clients blocked as "Anonymous" - 7.Dec.2005 8:12:52 PM   
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Hi Dave,

good luck!

Stefaan

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RE: Clients blocked as "Anonymous" - 8.Dec.2005 2:06:33 AM   
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I'm going to be rebuilding both the lab and the PKI/ISA/IIS. Too many undocumented changes are getting back at me.

Zeer bedankt for U help

Dave.

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RE: Clients blocked as "Anonymous" - 9.Feb.2006 3:41:05 AM   
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Hello DaveG
Just wondering how are you getting on with the client authentication certificate, as I have strike the exact same problem:
I have the standalone ISA using the server certificate, enable the SSL bridging (https -> http), and it works with other kinds of authentication method (digest, basic etc).
When I choose to use the client certicate on the client machine, the browser returned an unauthorised user message, and the ISA log shows the client as anonymous.
In an OWA scenerio the client certificate needs to be authenticated against a domain controller, but I too prefers using a standalone CA. Now how do I control the client authentication process? Do I need to install the client certificate on the ISA server somewhere?

Any help will be much appreciated!!!

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RE: Clients blocked as "Anonymous" - 16.Feb.2006 2:09:29 AM   
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Hi Dragoonn,

In the end, after trying all possible scenarios, including adding a Radius servers (useless in this case), I finally decided to go ahead a create a new separate domain for the ISA. It will be member of a new domain, therefore there will be an additional DC, that will act as the CA at the same time. After enough testing, I'm confident that this will meet my needs.

I do wish it was easier, but apparently it's not. So, that's my final solution.

Good luck.

Dave.

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