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MSDEToText.vbs - 3.Aug.2005 11:58:00 AM

fodell

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Anyone used this from MS yet?

Thanks

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 3.Aug.2005 2:00:00 PM

tshinder

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Hi Learning,

Yes.

Tom

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 4.Aug.2005 9:31:00 AM

MRIS

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At the risk of sounding unkind to the site operator, Tom, although your answer was 100% correct, it was also 100% useless, much like this post, really. [Roll Eyes]

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 4.Aug.2005 9:45:00 AM

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Whilst on the topic of useless posts, I may as well toss mine in also. IMHO, the quality of the answer matches the quality of the question.

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 4.Aug.2005 5:09:00 PM

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Heh - I'm with LLigetfa (although i think his signature quote is about the lamest, most daft thing I've seen on the internet) - don't expect anyone to spend more time on their response to you than the time you spend on your question.

To buck that general truth about newsgroup postings, I have used this script to dump out the contents of the Firewall and WebProxy databases and it works fine.

Are you having problems? If so, what are those problems? If you're not having problems, what was the intent of your original post?

[ August 04, 2005, 05:11 PM: Message edited by: ClintD ]

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 4.Aug.2005 10:05:00 PM

LLigetfa

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Lamest? most daft? :,(
How about this?

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 5.Aug.2005 6:57:00 AM

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Much better. [Smile]

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 8.Aug.2005 12:32:00 PM

MRIS

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using this "tool" on a SBS2003 server violates the EULA, here is the extract:

h. Data Storage. The Server Software contains
portions that use the data storage
technology known as Microsoft SQL Server
Desktop Engine ("MSDE"). All copies and
instances of MSDE contained in or installed
by those portions of the Server Software,
excluding the SQL Redistributables, may be
used only by those portions of the Server
Software. Any such copy or instance of MSDE
may not be accessed or used for any other
purpose. For example, applications may not
be created or run on the Server Software if
they access or use the services or
functionality of any copy or instance of
MSDE contained in or installed by those
portions of the Software. In addition, any
MSDE network library files that are disabled
at the time you first install the Server
Software may not be re-enabled.

Man that sucks so hard it bleeds...

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 8.Aug.2005 6:42:00 PM

ClintD

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Ummm...how, exactly, does it violate that portion of the EULA? I'd really like to hear this...

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 8.Aug.2005 7:53:00 PM

MRIS

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Any such copy or instance of MSDE
may not be accessed or used for any other
purpose. For example, applications may not
be created or run on the Server Software if
they access or use the services or
functionality of any copy or instance of
MSDE contained in or installed by those
portions of the Software.

You're not allowed to access the MSDE databases at all. [Frown]

EG, the downloadable script mentioned in this article, when run, eg on the server, connects to the database and extracts data. This would represent "access an instance of MSDE" which is prohibited by the wording in the EULA.

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 8.Aug.2005 7:56:00 PM

MRIS

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In fact, merely PASTING the contents of the MSDEtoText.vbs file into Notepad open on a SBS2003 violates the EULA, as you're not even allowed to "create" the application, or have it located on the server.

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 8.Aug.2005 9:45:00 PM

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Is this your own interpretation, or are you reading this from some site?

[ August 08, 2005, 09:48 PM: Message edited by: ClintD ]

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 9.Aug.2005 3:40:00 AM

MRIS

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"applications may not be created or run on the Server if they access or use the services or functionality of any copy or instance of MSDE"

Seems quite plain to me. I guess you could just run it on a PC elsewhere and connect to the MSDE via the network. Too bad they also forbid you enabling any network capabilities in the MSDE, but fortunately LPC seems enabled by default, even if TCP/IP insn't.

No other website, this is the first time this has been spoken about on the internet.

[ August 09, 2005, 03:43 AM: Message edited by: MRIS ]

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 9.Aug.2005 8:57:00 AM

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A script is not an application. It is merely calling functions in CSCRIPT.EXE and WSCRIPT.EXE.

[ August 09, 2005, 08:58 AM: Message edited by: ClintD ]

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RE: MSDEToText.vbs - 9.Aug.2005 10:13:00 AM

MRIS

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I guess you could also UNINSTALL the MSDE instances, (which I gather is fully allowed) then simply install your own MSDE instance, configured identically as the one you've uninstalled. So you're replacing the MSDE instances with an identical item. Seeing that the server component didn't install these replacement instances, the clause doesn't apply and you're free to do whatever you want with them. (people that write EULAs should all be sent to Guantanamo IMHO)

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