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Preventing PC's accessing the internet - 26.Sep.2007 12:00:00 PM   
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Hi All,
 
I am attempting to prevent specific client PC's from accessing the internet through our ISA server. Our network is dhcp so each pc picks up a new address on restart so blocking via IP address isn't really the option.
 
I have created a new security group and added the computer accounts in there but users can still enter valid creditentials and gain access to the internet from the blocked machine.
 
Basically people banned from the internet are able to access the internet by entering valid details at the proxy challenge box and getting away with surfing the web.
 
Any ideas would be welcome!
 
Thanks.
 
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RE: Preventing PC's accessing the internet - 26.Sep.2007 7:01:24 PM   
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quote:

Our network is dhcp so each pc picks up a new address on restart so blocking via IP address isn't really the option.


Create a Reservation in your DHCP Server.

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RE: Preventing PC's accessing the internet - 27.Sep.2007 3:11:22 AM   
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I was trying to avoid doing that. The PC's move around numerous sites which are on numerous vlans but all in the same AD forest so if I can simply add the PC's to a group then deny that group internet access it would be much simpler.

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RE: Preventing PC's accessing the internet - 27.Sep.2007 3:18:11 AM   
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Well, you can not authenticate computers, you can only authentical users/groups

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Basically people banned from the internet are able to access the internet by
entering valid details at the proxy challenge box and getting away with surfing the web.


then this should be an HR problem, people who do such act should be warned verbally and if it continued then they should be punished !

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RE: Preventing PC's accessing the internet - 27.Sep.2007 3:50:30 AM   
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Be that as it may I still want to see whether this is possible. I don't run HR I just attempt what I am asked to attempt. I was asked to attempt to block PC's rather than users from the internet.

Edit: If you can authenticate groups, and add computer accounts into groups, then surely we can authenticate computers that way?

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RE: Preventing PC's accessing the internet - 27.Sep.2007 4:55:39 AM   
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quote:

I was asked to attempt to block PC's rather than users from the internet.


u can block computers, but your will need to know their IP addresses, maybe you can assign static IP for these computers that you want to block, and in your DHCP server, put this range in the Exception List, so that these addresses are not assigned by DHCP to other machines

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Edit: If you can authenticate groups, and add computer accounts into groups, then surely we can authenticate computers that way?

Nope, Group of Users

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RE: Preventing PC's accessing the internet - 27.Sep.2007 8:50:03 AM   
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Ok, will give up on that route then. static ip'ing here we come...
 
thanks

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