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Securenat connection issue - 13.Feb.2007 8:52:38 PM   
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I've been using snat for sometime but then suddenly it won't works anymore. I just put the isa internal nic as gateway. In the monitor tab, there are securenat session going on.I can still ping ip from dos prompt. In my access policy those are my rules

1.Publish dns server, allow from anywhere to dns server ip
2.Deny msn , allow http/https from internal to external, authenticated users
3.Remote login, allow ftp/pptp server from external to local host, all users
4.Pop/smtp, allow smtp/pop3 server from internal to external, all users
5.Normal access, allow netbios from local network to local network, all users



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RE: Securenat connection issue - 14.Feb.2007 2:24:39 AM   
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Hi, check this article : http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer/Internal_DNS_Forwarding.aspx

BTW, you need to review your rules !!! we will discuss them later.


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Tarek

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RE: Securenat connection issue - 14.Feb.2007 2:40:58 AM   
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Hi, which rules causing problem ?

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RE: Securenat connection issue - 14.Feb.2007 2:46:43 AM   
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None for this issue.

but they will cuz ur ISA to be hacked later .

like what is this
quote:

3.Remote login, allow ftp/pptp server from external to local host, all users


u need RDP, then either publish it ot enable VPN and then establish an RDP session !!!



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RE: Securenat connection issue - 14.Feb.2007 2:52:45 AM   
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Sorry forget to ask that isn;t securenat and firewall client use the same dns name mechasim ? my firewall client have no problem.

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RE: Securenat connection issue - 14.Feb.2007 2:59:20 AM   
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have u checked and followed this : http://www.elmajdal.net/ISAServer/Internal_DNS_Forwarding.aspx  ?????

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RE: Securenat connection issue - 14.Feb.2007 4:12:14 AM   
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Hi, i've configured that access policy but snat still won;t connect. I put that rule on top.

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RE: Securenat connection issue - 14.Feb.2007 4:16:22 AM   
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how many NICs your ISA have ??

whats the IP , DGW, DNS on ISA ?

whats the IP, DGW, DNS  on a securenat client ?



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RE: Securenat connection issue - 14.Feb.2007 4:53:55 AM   
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2 nic on isa server. Internal nic 192.168.0.2, external nic 192.168.1.2 and gateway set to router ip . What is DGW ? Internal dns on isa server. Act as forwarder. Client using static ip and set isa internal ip as gateway and dns set to my internal dns server.  Can 1 nic on isa use snat ? i used 1 nic previously to use snat.

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RE: Securenat connection issue - 14.Feb.2007 5:01:48 AM   
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DGW= Default GateWay

quote:

Can 1 nic on isa use snat ? i used 1 nic previously to use snat.


check the 5th point specially :

quote:

Configuring ISA Server with a Single Network Adapter Configuration

Problem: There are a number of issues associated with the configuration of ISA Server on a computer with a single network adapter.
Cause: The causes include:

Multi-network firewall policy. In single network adapter mode, ISA Server recognizes itself (the Local Host network). Everything else is recognized as the Internal network. There is no concept of an External network. The Microsoft Firewall service and application filters operate only in the context of the Local Host network. (ISA Server protects itself no matter what network template is applied.) Because the Firewall service and application filters operate in the context of the Local Host network, you can use access rules to allow non-Web protocols to the ISA Server computer. This has implications for running applications located on the ISA Server computer.

Application layer inspection. Application level filtering does not function, except for Web Proxy Filter for Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP), Secure HTTP (HTTPS), and File Transfer Protocol (FTP) over HTTP.

Server publishing. Server publishing is not supported. Because there is no separation of Internal and External networks, ISA Server cannot provide the NAT functionality required in a server publishing scenario.

Firewall clients. The Firewall Client application handles requests from Winsock applications that use the Firewall service. This service is not available in a single network adapter environment.

SecureNAT clients. SecureNAT clients use ISA Server as a router to the Internet, and SecureNAT client requests are handled by the Firewall service. Because the Firewall service is not available in a single network adapter configuration, such requests are not supported.


Virtual private networking. Site-to-site virtual private networks (VPNs), and remote access VPNs are not supported in a single network adapter scenario.




source: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/isa/2004/plan/unsupportedconfigs.mspx

HTH,
Tarek



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RE: Securenat connection issue - 14.Feb.2007 9:23:11 AM   
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Maybe i was using webproxy setting previously. Now i remember nat has to have 2 nics or 2 interfaces. Thanks for the link.

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RE: Securenat connection issue - 14.Feb.2007 9:35:49 AM   
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Glad it helped.


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Tarek

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