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Web publishing - has to be done in firewall mode in ISA... - 12.Oct.2004 7:26:00 PM   
ristic

 

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In ISA 2000 SE when installing you get prompted do you want to install in firewall mode, cashing only or integrated - in ISA 2004 SE you never get that choice, its firewall mode only? Even when I have only one NIC and all I wan't to do is web publishing (I use Cisco PIX firwalls so no need for ISA in firewall mode) - in ISA 2004 I have to use it in firewall mode? Or am I mission something...?

Thanks!
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RE: Web publishing - has to be done in firewall mode in... - 12.Oct.2004 7:57:00 PM   
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Hi Ristic,

I'd SERIOUSLY reconsider your asssement regarding not needing the ISA firewall as a firewall. The PIX is a simple packet filter. Personally, I would NEVER trust my own assests and those I in charge of protecting to a packet filter like PIX.

You can use the PIX packet filter to offload some processing off the ISA firewall, but don't fool yourself that the PIX is providing real firewall protection.

HTH,
Tom

[ October 12, 2004, 07:57 PM: Message edited by: tshinder ]

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RE: Web publishing - has to be done in firewall mode in... - 12.Oct.2004 8:01:00 PM   
ristic

 

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Thanks Tom. We will reconsider, I hope. It's a big organization with big Cisco and Unix shops and not too keen of Microsoft products. I know what you're talking about but they don't listen. Anyhow, back to my question if we may please, does ISA 2004 support cashing only mode? You see, your book is not out on Amazon yet, I can't wait [Smile]

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RE: Web publishing - has to be done in firewall mode in... - 22.Oct.2004 12:04:00 PM   
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ISA2004 always has the firewall enabled because *grmblz* they implemented the web proxy into the firewall service so it has the be running. I heard it was required for enhancing speed...

If anyone know of a configuration or registry hack which disables the firewalling and only enables the web proxying, I would be VERY thankful.

Jeroen.

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RE: Web publishing - has to be done in firewall mode in... - 22.Oct.2004 3:38:00 PM   
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Okay, I've found the solution for usage in a DMZ.

You have to use the Single Network Adapter template and accept the range that is chosen for the Internal network.

It's a bit strange for me because that range is 0.0.0.1-126.255.255.255 and 128.0.0.0-255.255.255.254 which means everything except the 127.0.0.0/8 range. The object "External" now has no meaning anymore... the picture they use for this template is misleading in my opinion.

I changed the "Internal"-range to the real internal range according to the picture.

I created an access rule from Localhost to Internal, but I cannot do a thing. The logging shows denied but it also shows connections from and to the ranges which I had permitted. So they should be allowed, I don't understand this...did the template change other things?

It appears you have to use the range with only 127.0.0.0/8 and don't you dare changing that...

ISA 2004 is a big step forward in the firewall market but you have to know it well...it's a challenge [Wink]

Can someone explain me why I have to use that special range for my internal object?

In my opinion the picture that Microsoft uses, should be changed...I mean when you look at it, it is as if there is no firewall between Internal and External. And when you look in the Internal object, it shows every IP except the 127.0.0.0-range... [Confused] [Confused]

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