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What if I don't want to use NAT??? - 3.Sep.2003 11:05:00 PM   
sprkymrk

 

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Status: offline 		Hi Everyone:

Say, I was wondering, I have a situation where the ISA server sits between the trusted network and border router (a Cisco 3500). Do I have to set the ISA as Default Gateway or can I set the router ip as default gateway on clients? The thing is, I don't necessarily want to perform network address translation on the clients for other reasons. Thanks,

Mark
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RE: What if I don't want to use NAT??? - 4.Sep.2003 5:38:00 AM   
sniper

 

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Status: offline 		sprkymrk,

NAT can not be disbaled to my knowledge. It is a request for the next version.

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RE: What if I don't want to use NAT??? - 4.Sep.2003 4:01:00 PM   
sprkymrk

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks. So if I want to use it as a firewall, then there is no choice but to make everyone a secure NAT client? Hmmm. When does the next version come out?

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RE: What if I don't want to use NAT??? - 5.Sep.2003 1:23:00 AM   
sprkymrk

 

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Status: offline 		Hi, me again. I was just going through some other message boards under "ISA Server Misc.>>Tips and Tricks>>Tips for MSN, Yahoo, Kazaa" and found a post by Tom that reads "I guarantee that it works. But the clients must be configured as Firewall clients ONLY. If they are configured as SecureNAT clients, by can access the mspclnt.ini settings."

[Confused] My question is how can a client NOT be a Secure NAT client while still being a firewall client? I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm confused. [Confused]
Thanks for any input.

Mark

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RE: What if I don't want to use NAT??? - 5.Sep.2003 6:50:00 AM   
sniper

 

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By defenition the secure nat client is anyone that uses the ISA server as there defualt gateway, they are bould tothe protocol defines in the protocol definitions

The firewall client negotiates with the firewall service.take a look at these

http://www.isaserver.org/tutorials/Understanding_protocol_rules.html

http://www.isaserver.org/tutorials/ISA_Clients__Part_3_The_Firewall_Client.html

http://www.isaserver.org/tutorials/ISA_Clients__Part_2_SecureNAT_and_Web_Proxy_Client.html

http://www.isaserver.org/tutorials/ISA_Clients__Part_1__General_ISA_Server_Configuration.html

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RE: What if I don't want to use NAT??? - 9.Sep.2003 11:08:00 PM   
sprkymrk

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks Chris. The second link looks like it might have my answer.

Mark

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