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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 27.Jul.2005 2:24:00 AM   
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[Confused] [Eek!] [Roll Eyes]

((( didn't I ask many times to check out the ISA log files? That something different then the event viewer. Isn't it! )))

Well, i always checked the log files from the even viewer so do you mean that ISA log files only available at:

ISA MMC, node Monitoring -> tab Logging.

Thanks Stefaan,
Al-Taee

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 27.Jul.2005 11:34:00 AM   
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Hi Al-Taee,

yes, that's correct!

HTH,
Stefaan

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 7.Aug.2005 1:52:00 AM   
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Hi Stefaan,

Which information i check in the log record type -logging tab?

They monitoring - session tab contains the type (WP or SNAT) and its SNAT for my clients and WP for anonymous. Do you have an explaination?

Thanks,
Al-Taee

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 13.Aug.2005 4:46:00 PM   
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Hi Al-Taee,

can you post some examples of log entries. Also, make sure you include the fields 'Result Code', 'Error Information' and 'Filter Information' in the log view.

HTH,
Stefaan

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 14.Aug.2005 3:38:00 AM   
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Hi Stefaan,

Can you send me your email in order to send you part of the results?

I dont have an idea how to make the condation (equall, not equall, and others) do you have an article for this subject?

Thanks,
Al-Taee

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 14.Aug.2005 3:52:00 PM   
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Hi Al-Taee,

the bad news is that as far as I know there isn't an article about interpreting the ISA logs. The good news is that I'm planning an article on this subject but no timeframe is set yet.

I suggest you include all fields in the log viewer. Then restart the log viewer with the default query and make a test from the client. Then stop the log query and export the log to a text file. Post then here the URL where we can download the exported logfile together with the IP address of the client and the destination (FQDN, URL, ...) you wanted to access.

HTH,
Stefaan

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 15.Aug.2005 5:08:00 AM   
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Hi Stefaan,

I will waiting your important article because the log files are important to solve problems, hope your timeframe not be long [Big Grin]

Well, i didnt find good site to upload the files but i have the text files and i can send it by email.

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 15.Aug.2005 11:27:00 AM   
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Hi Al-Taee,

well, can't you web publish your own website. It's a excellent excercise with ISA 2004! [Wink]

HTH,
Stefaan

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 16.Aug.2005 5:03:00 AM   
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Hi Stefaan,

Iam interst to solve my ISA problem and then i will have time for excercise so as you like.

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 16.Aug.2005 2:41:00 PM   
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Hi Al-Taee,

well, can't you just post the relevant log entries here?

HTH,
Stefaan

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 17.Aug.2005 4:28:00 AM   
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Hi Stefaan,

It works but i dont know exactly why it doesnt work during the past time. I have web proxy clients in the log but can you tell me how i know if thw clients use DHCP or DNS WPAD?

I hope it not work for a shot time and Thanks for your help.

Al-Taee

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 17.Aug.2005 3:26:00 PM   
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Hi Al-Taee,

if you really want to know which method is actually used, you should use a network tracing tool such as Ethereal or NetMon (W2K3). However, if you just want to test the autodetect mechanisms, use the Firewall Client Tool for ISA Server 2004 ( http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=f20f6267-273d-4870-b1e8-799b261b4786&displaylang=en ).

HTH,
Stefaan

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 18.Aug.2005 2:57:00 AM   
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Hi Stefaan,

Amazing tool to test the autodetect mechanisms but i didnt know in Ethereal which option i use, i am interest in that because sometimes one of the option stop so i can know where is my problem.

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Al-Taee

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 18.Aug.2005 2:41:00 PM   
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Hi Al-Taee,

what do you mean with "but i didnt know in Ethereal which option i use"?

HTH,
Stefaan

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 19.Aug.2005 4:25:00 AM   
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Hi Stefaan,

Iam sorry for ambiguous statment. I mean in Ethereal, shall i follow your article to know if iam using DNS or DHCP or you have another way. I want to know which option stop or fail next time a problem happen. Do you think the tool is enough or i have to use Ethereal?

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 19.Aug.2005 3:14:00 PM   
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Hi Al-Taee,

well I would use the Fwctool to test the auto detect and Ethereal to capture the test to determine the exact cause. [Wink]

You can test a full auto detect by executing the following commands:

1. for the DNS method:
- ipconfig /flushdns
- fwctool testautodetect /type:dns

2. for the DHCP method:
- ipconfig /release
- ipconfig /renew
- fwctool testautodetect /type:dhcp

With the Ethereal captures you should be able to determine where exactly it goes wrong.

HTH,
Stefaan

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 24.Aug.2005 5:10:00 AM   
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Hi Stefaan,

I used the Fwctool to test the auto detect and it works successfully with DHCP and failed and not completed with DNS with the following error:
Domain name found:
mydomain
Resolving address:
wpad.mydomain
Domain name not found
WSPAD URL was not found in DNS server
Failed to detect ISA Server

while the nslookup work for wpad.mydomain!

With the Ethereal captures the DCHP pass the procudure as with your article but nothing happened with DNS so how can i be able to determine where exactly it goes wrong with DNS?

The webproxy client access work good with IE.

Thanks,
Mohammed

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 24.Aug.2005 4:28:00 PM   
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Hi Mohammed,

if you don't see the wpad DNS request in the Ethereal trace then either it is confugured in the local hosts file (C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc) or it comes from the local DNS cache.

Did you see something in the local DNS cache (ipconfig /displaydns)?
Did you flush the local DNS cache (ipconfig /flushdns)?

HTH,
Stefaan

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 25.Aug.2005 2:40:00 AM   
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Hi Stefaan,

I didnt understand the first part of your answer but i follow your article to create the Wpad in the DNS forward zone. Whats the problem if its available in the pahts that you mentioned.

Yes, I saw the wpad.mydomain only at my WP client (win. srv 2003)not on the DC (DNS)server or other clients by using ipconfig /displaydns but i cant nslookup the Wpad.

Yes, i flush the local DNS cache using (ipconfig /flushdns) at the client only and it does not change something.

Thanks for help,
Al-Taee

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RE: All user vs Internet group...?!? - 25.Aug.2005 3:56:00 PM   
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Hi Mohammed,

if you can't nslookup the 'wpad' alias then something is wrong with your DNS. The entry 'wpad' should just be an alias or cname for the FQDN of the ISA internal interface.

How is the ISA internal interface defined in the DNS? I don't let the ISA server register his interfaces in the DNS server dynamically but define them always manually.

HTH,
Stefaan

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