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bradyb -> Site to Site Suggestions (15.Apr.2008 2:51:02 AM)

Hi all,

I am wanting to link a remote office, in the same town as me, about 5KM apart to my main office network.

We use a 2.4GHz high powered wireless link, which at the moment works fine.

What we want to do is have each office access each file server at each site, and files on workstations and vice versa as if they are on the one large network.

I have done a bit of reading, and I do not really want a perimeter or DMZ structure, or have to dial on demand a VPN connection from a workstation in the network, I would ideally like to go to a address bar and put in the server IP that I want to connect to and be shown the files.

There is one requirement - each site must not be able to access each others external modem as they must use their own internet connection and DHCP must not leak across the sites, ie Site 1 might be 10.0.1.0 and Site 2 might be 10.0.2.0 but they cannot accidently gain and IP from Site 2, if the workstation is at Site 1.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Each server is a single basic server, but each with 2 network interfaces, if that helps.




pwindell -> RE: Site to Site Suggestions (15.Apr.2008 3:45:27 PM)

I am wanting to link a remote office, in the same town as me, about 5KM apart to my main office network.

We use a 2.4GHz high powered wireless link, which at the moment works fine.


Then ISA really has nothing to do with it for the most part.  It is a matter of how you deploy your Microwave link (MW) and how you have the two network segments addressed and,... most importantly,... having a correct routing scheme design,..which is something that I am always adament & a bit maniacal about .  

I am laying out the plan clearly below,...if you run into Nay-Sayers who won't listen,...then give them a copy of this.  It is essentially the identical design used to connect two sites with a private commercial grade Frame-relay or T1 line. You're just using a Microwave Bridge instead, but it is the same principle, other than you have to "pinch" the MW link between two Routers because it doesn't normally have routers like a Frame Relay or T1 does.

1. The MW link is obviously up and running

2. The two offices need to be running two different subnets from each other

3. There needs to be two LAN Routers between them, one at each site.  The Microwave Link transcievers sit between the two Routers.  Why two routers instead of one???  Glad you asked.  Because of  your requirement that each site use only their own "firewall" and not get to the one on the opposite side.  If you did not have that requirement it could be done with one Router on only one side.

If you were to try to cut corners and "go cheap" and try to do this with one router you would be left with maintaining a ton of local Static Routes on every single client on one of the sites (choose your "lucky" site for that).  Then the users that might know how could just run "route /f" from a command prompt,..reboot,...which would wipe out the static routes and let them use the firewall the LAN Router Defaults to which may not be the one they are supposed to use.

4. You will have 3 subnets,...one for each site,...and the Microwave Link will be one all by itself and you can use a 4-Address/2-Host segment for that (255.255.255.252).  If you want to limit access to the opposite sides it would be done with ACLs on the LAN Routers between the Sites

5. Each Site will use their own LAN Router as their Default Gateway,...then the LAN Router uses the local "firewall" as the Default Gateway.  Note: See what happens if there were only one router?,...everyone ends up using the same firewall.

6.  On the ISA the Internal Network Definition must contain all the IP Ranges of all subnets.  Repeat the equivalent on the other Site's Firewall.  This is not optional.

7. This one is optional since you don't want the firewall & ISA to communicate with the opposite side.  If you desire, add Static Routes on the ISA that tell it to use local LAN Router as the "gateway" for all the subnets (same ones you listed in #6).   Repeat the equivalent on the other Site's Firewall.


     [LAN#1]---------<ISA>-----[Internet]
           |
<LAN Router #1>
           |
MW Tranceiver #1
          {
           }
[2-host subnet]
          {
           }
MW Tranceiver #2
           |
<LAN Router #2>
           |
    [LAN#2]-------<Firewall>-----[Internet]




bradyb -> RE: Site to Site Suggestions (15.Apr.2008 11:03:47 PM)

Hi Phillip,

Thanks for your reply. It will be helpful. A question:

Can each site use the router function on the ISA server computer?

Also, the MW link, consists of high powered $700 Dlink access point a each end.




bradyb -> RE: Site to Site Suggestions (15.Apr.2008 11:23:22 PM)

My idea was roughly along these lines:


Modem 10.16.13.1/255.255.0.0
|
|
ISA Server/Router 10.16.13.15/255.255.0.0
|
|
Access Point 10.16.14.1/255.255.255.252 (on second NIC in server)
|
|
MW LINK
|
|
Access Point 10.16.14.2/255.255.255.252 (on second NIC in server)
|
|
ISA Server/Router 10.16.15.15/255.255.0.0
|
|
Modem 10.16.15.1/255.255.0.0


Rules on each ISA long the lines of:

- Block DHCP traffic
- Block Web/HTTP traffic

- Vacant interface on each server is connected to a switch to allow workstations to connect, modem is also connected to each switch accordingly.


Would this work or would it be flawed?




pwindell -> RE: Site to Site Suggestions (16.Apr.2008 9:45:43 AM)

Also, the MW link, consists of high powered $700 Dlink access point a each end.

They are Point-to-Point Bridge Tranceivers. 

They are not Access Points,...Access Points accept connections from wireless Hosts only,...not other Access Points or Bridges.

Point-to-Point Bridges only accept connections from other Bridges with one of the Devices in "Master" Bridge Mode.

Can each site use the router function on the ISA server computer?

I suppose.
It would be a 3rd nic,...another "internal type" Nic. (not DMZ, not Parimeter, not External).

  [LAN #1]
          |
          | (internal nic)
          |
    <ISA #1>-----(ext nic)-----[Internet] 
          |
          | (2nd internal nic)
          |
MW Tranceiver #1
         {
          } 
         {
          }
MW Tranceiver #2
          |
          | (2nd internal nic)
          |
    <ISA #2>-----(ext nic)-----[Internet] 
          |
          | (internal nic)
          |           |
   [LAN#2]




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