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multi ftp on iis5 - 15.Dec.2002 10:46:00 AM

guy2002

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hello

i have two sites on the web server (i used web publishing rule)
for example :
http://mydomain.com (on ip 192.168.2.8)
http://mydomain.org (on ip 192.168.2.8)

i want ftp access for those two sites
for example:

http://ftp.mydomain.com (on ip 192.168.2.8)
http://ftp.mydomain.org (on ip 192.168.2.8)

im using iis with ftp (ms ftp) on the same machine (at the web server).

i have a problem with the ftp sites.
cuz both ftp sites go to the same location (and that wrong)

this is what i want :

http://ftp.mydomain.com - should point to c:\ftproot\1

http://ftp.mydomain.org - should point to
c:\ftproot\2

and right now , both ftp sites point to the default ftp site .

i know that ms ftp dont have the header thing ,
but how can i publish two ftp sites behind the isa server with out the conflict with both ftp sites?

does any one have any idea?

Guy

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 15.Dec.2002 6:42:00 PM

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i must say ,
that right now , i try to use 4 ftp sites on the same machine .
but there is an error on the ms ftp .
as soon as i try to start two or more ftp sites im geeting error 115 on event viewer .
and also a popup window at ms ftp :

THE SERVICE CAN NOT BE STARTED BECAUSE IT IS NOT CORRECTLY CONFIGURED, MAKE SHURE THAT ITS SERVER BINDINGS DO NOT CONFLICT WITH OTHER SITES RUNING ON THE SAME MACHINE .

i read that maybe its from the ssl .
but i cant disable/delete the ssl from the web sites (from iis5) .

im runing windows 2000 ads with iis5 behind isa server (i used web publishing)

any idea for those two problems that i have ?

[ December 15, 2002, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: Guy2002 ]

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 15.Dec.2002 9:04:00 PM

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Hi Guy,

You can't do that, because ISA Server always preserves the path. Now, you can read the articles I put up recently on how to redirect Web sites based on a path, but most of the functionality is related to the redirect at the Web site. FTP sites don't have the same functionality. Why not just create two FTP sites? private addresses are very inexpensive these days [Big Grin]

HTH,
Tom

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 15.Dec.2002 9:20:00 PM

guy2002

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Dear Tom!

1. please dont forget the dns thing.
2. that what i want to do , i want to create two ftp sites.
but the big problem that i cant run two ftp sites on the same machine at the same time (cuz the error that i get error 115)

the point is that i want to create two ftp sites (1 for every domain)
if there is a problem to do that (with port 21) can i point one ftp site to port 21 and the other to port 2121? (if i can so how?)

but i realy prefer to use two ftp sites on the same machine ?

note: as my last post , i write that when i run two ftp sites at the same machine , its all ways going to the same ftp site , i think that its cuz ms ftp dont use headers !

for example:
i have two domains:

www.one.com
www.two.com

i used web publishing to publish those two ftp sites (http://ftp.one.com and ftp.two.com )
the problem is , even that i add in iis5 two ftp sites (one for every domain)
its all ways takeing me to the same ftp site.
but i want the every domain will have its own ftp site.

i hope you could understand what i want !

Guy

[ December 15, 2002, 09:27 PM: Message edited by: Guy2002 ]

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 15.Dec.2002 9:22:00 PM

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btw , its a very good idea , if this forum will have auto email replay , for every time some one post a replay!

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 15.Dec.2002 9:34:00 PM

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Hey guy,

I have not forgotten the DNS article, its just that it will take awhile, but it will be done.

I can do a quick article on publishing multiple FTP sites, though. But the procedures are in the ISA Server and Beyond book, so I don't want to cover the same material too soon after the book is released. There so much other stuff that's not in the book that I can cover on the Web site!

Try publishing the two sites with different names like ftp1.domain.com and ftp2.domain.com and use two Destination Sets and two Web Publishing Rules. That should work fine. Make sure the two FTP sites are listening on different IP addresses on the internal network.

HTH,
Tom

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 15.Dec.2002 9:42:00 PM

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hi tom

i will wait to the dns articles !
and i realy should buy your book , from the usa(im from israel ..)

you are talking about two dns severs not at the same machine !
you wrote :
"Make sure the two FTP sites are listening on different IP addresses on the internal network"

and im talking about two ftp sites on the same machine .

so what you are telling me , that i must have TWO FTP SERVERS (1 for every ftp site)
so if i want 5 ftp sites , i need 5 FTP SERVERS?

is that right?

Guy

and thanks for the fast replay!

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 15.Dec.2002 10:34:00 PM

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Hi Guy,

That is correct! You can create mutiple FTP servers on a single IIS server. Each FTP site can be configured to listen on a different IP address. Each of these FTP "sites" is actually a different FTP virtual server.

You don't need two different domains, unless you want them. The key is to create the appropriate DNS Host (A) records. ftp1.domain.com and ftp2.domain.com are two Host (A) records in the same domain. ftp.domain1.com and ftp.domain2.com are two Host (A) records in different domains. You need to create the records on the appropriate DNS servers.

HTH,
Tom

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 15.Dec.2002 11:38:00 PM

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hi Tom !

well , all sound great ,
But i cant start more then one ftp site.
as soon as i want to start the second ftp site (on iis)
im getting error 115 on the web server (where the ftp sites is )

"THE SERVICE CAN NOT BE STARTED BECAUSE IT IS NOT CORRECTLY CONFIGURED, MAKE SHURE THAT ITS SERVER BINDINGS DO NOT CONFLICT WITH OTHER SITES RUNING ON THE SAME MACHINE .
"

you wrote:

"You can create mutiple FTP servers on a single IIS server. Each FTP site can be configured to listen on a different IP address"

but i only have one nic and one internal ip address on the web server!

so how can i publish two ftp sites , if the iis can only let me run one (cuz im getting this 115 error)?

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 16.Dec.2002 9:24:00 AM

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im still getting this error :

"THE SERVICE CAN NOT BE STARTED BECAUSE IT IS NOT CORRECTLY CONFIGURED, MAKE SHURE THAT ITS SERVER BINDINGS DO NOT CONFLICT WITH OTHER SITES RUNING ON THE SAME MACHINE ."

its happened as soon as i want to start more then one ftp site...

who can please explain me why and how to fix this problem ASAP?

Guy

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 16.Dec.2002 12:39:00 PM

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so if i understand you right ,
i need to BUY IPS for every ftp site ?
if not , so what ip address do i need to use with all the ftp sites?

my web server ip is :
192.168.2.8

my external ip :

62.219.165.89

in all the ftp sites im using this :

[all unassigned]

but as i wrote before , i cant use this setting with the same port at the same time (cuz the error that im getting).

please ..please .. HELP ME HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !

Guy

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 16.Dec.2002 1:45:00 PM

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hello again

right now , im testing to see if i could add ftp sites by port number :

for example:

http://ftp.domain1.com - will use port 21
http://ftp.domain2.com - will use port 22
etc..

cuz its an http ftp server (i used web publishing) , i will use the domains with out any port number in my browser ( cuz the http redirect as ftp)

but is there any other way to do this or this way is the easy and the best way ?

Guy

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 16.Dec.2002 7:28:00 PM

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Hey Guy,

You should be able to use alternate port numbers, just make sure the sites are configured to listen on the alternate ports, and that the Web Publishing Rules are configured to access the FTP sites on the alternate FTP port numbers.

HTH,
Tom

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RE: multi ftp on iis5 - 16.Dec.2002 8:45:00 PM

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Dear Tom.

i all ready check it , and its working just fine .
i just asked if its the best way for me .
but from your answer , i understand that it is !

so .. there is two things that im not happy with :
1. server log file (with the ip log problems)
2. publishing ftp sites (ftp://....) using one ip address ( i will need to buy more ips and i should use server publishing to use the ftp://.. so i can upload files from the ftp client to the ftp server ).

well.. im still happy with what i get from now .
and im more happy with all your help ( hey.. with out you i never get it worked ..)

so thanks agin for all your helps [Wink]