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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 15.Jan.2003 2:33:00 PM

jmjarvis

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Hey Kaj,

So the Use SMTP Server for email option is enabled
and the SMTP Server Address is set to the SMTP smart host IP ADDRESS on the Internet ?

Jas

P.S. Just checked my config and all I have is a protocol rule allowing SMTP through from my internal SMTP server. This is the only difference. I have my own internal smtp/pop3 servers but shouldn't matter. Do you see anything is your ISA logs ?

[ January 15, 2003, 02:46 PM: Message edited by: Jason Jarvis ]

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 15.Jan.2003 3:18:00 PM

Kaj Drost

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Hi jason,

Yupz, that is how I configured it, I put the IP address from my emails SMTP server there and it times out, I would have to check my ISA logs to see if soemthing goes wrong, can't imagine, cause my mail (outlook) does work.

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 15.Jan.2003 3:36:00 PM

jmjarvis

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Kaj,

Can you post the contents of you php.ini file to do with SMTP and its location ?

Thanks

Oh and can you tell me what the default gateway of your IIS/SQL is please ?

Jas

[ January 15, 2003, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: Jason Jarvis ]

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 15.Jan.2003 3:57:00 PM

jmjarvis

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Kaj,

Can you telnet to your ISP's smart host from you IIS box on port 25?

Jas

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 15.Jan.2003 10:43:00 PM

Kaj Drost

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Hi jason,

i cannot telnet to my SMTP server, it say failed to make connection on port 23, really weird.

This is what my PHP.ini says about SMTP:

[mail function]
; For Win32 only.
SMTP = localhost ; for Win32 only

; For Win32 only.
sendmail_from = me@localhost.com ; for Win32 only

; For Unix only. You may supply arguments as well (default: "sendmail -t -i").
;sendmail_path =

And my gateway is not set for the internal card.

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 16.Jan.2003 7:35:00 AM

jmjarvis

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Kaj,

Ok a couple of things :

1) Your default gateway on your IIS/SQL machine should be your internal NIC of the ISA making the IIS box a SecureNAT client.

2) The Section :
[mail function]
; For Win32 only.
SMTP = localhost ; for Win32 only

should read :

[mail function]
; For Win32 only.
SMTP = [put IP of smart host here] ; for Win32 only

3) Did you mean you can't telnet on port 23 or port 25 ? SMTP is port 25

Let me know

Jas

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 16.Jan.2003 11:38:00 AM

Kaj Drost

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Hi JAson

Pretty long converstaion this is getting [Smile]

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1. My IIS, ISA, SQL is all the same box. I will get a second within a couple of months, but now it is all the same machine.

2. Ok I will insert that and test again.

3. I open de command prompt, , type telnet xxx.xxx.xx.x. and then I wait and it tells it cannot connect to the host on port 23, I then type telnet xxx.xxx.xx.x:25 and I get the same message.

It is only the mailfunction that don't work, I got all other things to work, takes time, but MYSQL and PHPBB is a nice combo, now let's get this mail thing going.

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 16.Jan.2003 11:54:00 AM

jmjarvis

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Hey Kaj,

Sorry my mistake I thought you said that the SQL and IIS were one machine and ISA was on another.

Anyway in that case configure an IP packet filter to allow SMTP through.

Or if you don't want to use an IP packet filter install the SMTP Relay, disable socket pooling so that it only listens on the internal NIC and then configure the relay to send out to your ISP smart host.

Option 1 is probably easier as with option 2 you need to configure it so that its not utilized by the wonderful people on the internet as an open relay [Mad]

Jas

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 16.Jan.2003 2:00:00 PM

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ok and I still have to edit the php.ini?

I guess so, I will try that tonight.

Got my second box today, so maybe I willt ransfer things to that server soon [Smile]

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 16.Jan.2003 7:10:00 PM

Kaj Drost

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Hi Jas,

I have been trying the options you gave me, but still no luck, It seems that the request won't get out onto the inetrnet, I see a lot of activity on my inertnal nic, but nothing on my internet nic

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 16.Jan.2003 10:22:00 PM

jmjarvis

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Hey Kaj,

This is something silly.

So to recap - IIS and MySQL installed on the same machine as ISA ?

You've configured IIS to listen on the Internal NIC ? And you dont have the SMTP relay installed ?

All your clients (SecureNAT ????? ) are configured using outlook to talk to a smart host (IP address) out on the Internet ? And all is fine here ( using the protocol rule for SMTP ).

You've reverse (web) published your phpBB through ISA from the Internet and all works well.

You've configured an IP packet filter to allow port 25 through ?

Jas

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 17.Jan.2003 8:51:00 AM

Kaj Drost

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Yupz, that is the case, I have tested some more:
this is the error I get when typing the IP address, or the smtp2.xxx.xxx.xx (name of the SMTP server): Could not connect to smtp host : 10060 : A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond.

Ok now I have been running by soem of the PHPBB boards and one suggestion was to insert localhost as the SMTp server name, I thought what the heck and then I got the unable to relay error. Which I should get.
What i think is that somehow, the request to the SMTP server doesn't get through to the internet.

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 17.Jan.2003 10:53:00 AM

jmjarvis

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What do your ISA logs tell you ?

Time for NetMon I think

What you could do as a quick test is to install the SMTP relay listening on the internal NIC. Then configure this to use the smart host of your ISP's box.

Jas

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 17.Jan.2003 11:33:00 AM

Kaj Drost

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ISA logs tell me nothing i can use really, unless I am using them wrong

How do I install SMTP realy listening?

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RE: PHPBB bulletin Board/forum - 17.Jan.2003 12:49:00 PM

jmjarvis

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Kaj,

Try the following command:

telnet x.x.x.x 25

Note: the space between the IP address an port number. What do you get ? Try this from the ISA and from a client using outlook.

You can install the SMTP relay service by going into Add/Remove windows components and doing it there.

Then open up Internet Services Manager and click on Properties.

Ensure that the IP Address is the internal NIC of the ISA.

Click on the Delivery tab and click Advanced. Under smart host put the IP address of your ISP's SMTP server. NOTE: Put it in open sqaure brackets [x.x.x.x]

Try that

Let me know

Jas

[ January 17, 2003, 12:53 PM: Message edited by: Jason Jarvis ]

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